tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post122631763880183300..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Korach, and the Mechila of a Talmid ChachamEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-80826197263720116862015-06-17T13:19:48.072-05:002015-06-17T13:19:48.072-05:00I don't think the Mahari Weil meant that you c...I don't think the Mahari Weil meant that you can be someich on him to lechatchila be mevazeh a talmid chacham. There's always the possibility that the Ribono shel Olam will be makpid on his kavod and the kavod of His Torah, and the "yeish al mi lismoch" will be "מִשְׁעֶנֶת הַקָּנֶה הָרָצוּץ."Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-34129942382272162392015-06-17T11:47:00.987-05:002015-06-17T11:47:00.987-05:00Once you bring the Rema and the Levush, it takes a...Once you bring the Rema and the Levush, it takes all the wind out of your sails. The Levush, says that such talmidei chachamim בעונותינו אין זה מצוי בינינו. The Rema brings the same thing from RY Vayl, http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1746&st=&pgnum=116 and the Maharik, http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1142&pgnum=187 (it's really the exact same teshuva, and it was erroneously put into the Maharik) who says that our talmidei chachamim are not worthy of the title, and even if there are fine talmidei chachamim now, there are also some bad ones, so the whole halacha cannot be enforced. It looks to me like a wholesale hetter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-9203747663620801952015-06-15T11:44:12.636-05:002015-06-15T11:44:12.636-05:00Thank you for the mm. To tell the truth, afar ani...Thank you for the mm. To tell the truth, afar ani etc, but I don't necessarily agree with what Rav Steinman says, that if Miriam had asked mechila, she would not have gotten tzaraas, I would say like the Netziv that it was vital that Miriam's mistake have consequences, at least as a lesson to Klal Yisrael. I mainly wanted to get to the terrible mistake people make, that when gedolim argue that they think that once they take sides, then le'sheim shamayim they can talk with the worst azus panim against the other side, unlike David HaMelech, who spoke of Shaul with the greatest respect even as he was trying to kill him.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-69454983323436484842015-06-15T11:32:59.423-05:002015-06-15T11:32:59.423-05:00The Netziv I think says that the whole reason Hash...The Netziv I think says that the whole reason Hashem involved himself in the Miriam-Moshe issue is because Miriam's error in speaking against Moshe was not just a personal affront to Moshe, but struck at an issue fundamental to ikkarei emunah: the superiority of Moshe above all other nevi'im. Moshe's mechila can't undo a ta'us in ikakrei emumah.Chaim B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.com