tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post1647735207979460816..comments2024-03-28T23:20:49.777-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Re'ey, Devarim 12:3-4. Erasing Hashem's Written NameEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-69766913080261198132011-09-04T23:53:40.649-05:002011-09-04T23:53:40.649-05:00and Eli- I put the new information into the post. ...and Eli- I put the new information into the post. Yasher koach.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-63225452274232399282011-09-04T23:43:36.666-05:002011-09-04T23:43:36.666-05:00Regarding the Teshuva from the NB's son, Now t...Regarding the Teshuva from the NB's son, <br><br>Now that a new annotated version of the NB has been published, we know that the following has been said about that teshuva:<br><br>1. תורת מיכאל- לכלוכית הקרקע מוחקו מיד והוי כמחיקה בידים, which I don't understand at all.<br><br>2. משנת יעקב (רוזנטל) - פשוט ברמב"ם ו' יסוה'ת ו דספר תורה שאני (like you said, and Reb Moshe says the same in OC 4, 8:1)<br> אבל המג"א קנ"ז ט כותב דה"ה שאר ספרים והפרמ"ג כותב ע"ז שלא ראה נוהגים כן<br><br>3. From אחיעזר ב מ"ח ב, that the NB"s son should have brought a better proof from Shabbos 14, where they were gozer tumas yadayim to prevent the unlikely event of achbarim destroying a sefer. So he says that answer to the stira is simply that Grama is only muttar by a solitary Sheim, but assur by kisvei kodesh, as he proves from Shabbos 115b where we're mattir hatzala for sfarim but not for brachos and kamei'in.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-56253209480967510942011-09-04T10:45:57.051-05:002011-09-04T10:45:57.051-05:00Regarding The Noda BiHuda (actually the Tshuva is ...Regarding The Noda BiHuda (actually the Tshuva is from his son, R. Shmuel) -- this was mentioned in our shul, and I found his Raaya puzzling. קבורה בכלי חרס is specific to Sefer Tora, while Mezuzah and Tefilin are buries without. Thus, as we know כלי חרס is more protective of the Sheimos (as we find in Yirmiyahu), and still we allow Kevura without one, this proves גרמא is not the reason for requiring כלי חרס, but rather the special Kedusha of S"T. <br><br>Also, note that R. Akiva Eiger in OC #70 says מחיקת השם בגרמא is, at most, איסור דרבנן. Still Assur, but could be used in conjunction with other Heterim you mentioned.Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-55712270074685204912011-08-28T20:58:20.990-05:002011-08-28T20:58:20.990-05:00The Chasam Sofer paskens that gerama is permitted ...The Chasam Sofer paskens that gerama is permitted (O.C. 32). <br>More applicable to this case is the Rashba on the sugya in Shabbos who says the tevilah is permitted because the water will not necessarily obliterate the shem. Where there will be an unavoidable act of destruction, that's not called gerama.<br>The sefer L'Horos Noson on the parsha has a whole discussion on this topic.Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-27435633612161274112011-08-26T18:04:08.723-05:002011-08-26T18:04:08.723-05:00Garnel- you're right, and if not for the "...Garnel- you're right, and if not for the "kula" of print being different than writing, we'd be drowning in Sheimos.<br><br>Anonymous- The problem selling to a goy is that unlike Chametz and Shvi'is and Bechora and Sirus, selling to a goy who will be mochek is the same zilzul. Like leaving Sheimos on the garbage can and letting the sanitation workers worry about it. Your chiyuv is to not be mezalzel: selling to a goy that's going to melt it is zilzul. <br><br>BUT I agree that if it's muttar, it would still be a good idea to sell it to a goy that's going to do the actual melting.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-68624852739670972892011-08-26T17:51:28.521-05:002011-08-26T17:51:28.521-05:00What about selling the gold to a Goy? I have rese...What about selling the gold to a Goy? I have researched selling gold recently and if he was just going to melt it down then the value is only the gold. There are plenty of sources that will pay 90%of the gold value (for 14K multiply the weight by the spot price of gold and then by 0.583) less 10%. There are many who pay much less but if he has bulk and is in the business he must know many. He would be out the 10% but up overall considering the rise in gold prices. If that is mutar by all than it may be a better option.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-77106484593436422362011-08-26T11:00:24.746-05:002011-08-26T11:00:24.746-05:00Would this issue not have come up decades ago when...Would this issue not have come up decades ago when secular Hebrew newspapers starting appear in which one of God's names might appear in the original?Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com