tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post6371917580168001734..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Part Two: Issur Sirus and Yishuv Eretz YisraelEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-79919501111843526492011-12-01T18:11:32.720-06:002011-12-01T18:11:32.720-06:00Next, the copper capon clipper caper.Next, the copper capon clipper caper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-44032056483554306262009-05-08T15:06:00.000-05:002009-05-08T15:06:00.000-05:00A friend, inspired by the idea of clipped capons, ...A friend, inspired by the idea of clipped capons, sent me a link. It is not educational.<br>http://www.metacafe.com/w/42943/Midwesternernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-74496190243374648732009-05-08T12:04:00.000-05:002009-05-08T12:04:00.000-05:00I spoke to several people this morning who used to...I spoke to several people this morning who used to raise chickens, and they said they bought the chickens caponized and raised them afterwards. Apparently, sexing and caponizing chickens is a specialized skill. I also remember talking to someone many years ago who raised cattle; he told me that he sells it to a goy for sirus.<br><br>Please see the post, towards the end, items #3 and #5. From what I've heard, the practical halacha is to rely on either double derabanan or selling to a goy, like mechiras chametz and shevi'is.<br><br>In any case, all this only is relevant to the farmer. Eating them is muttar, unless they are doing an issur and you are aiding and abetting by purchasing. I'm sure that they know of the issur and avoid it by one of the several means available. <br><br>Anyway, I'm told that capons are happier than roosters. Like Gloria Steinam, asked what the world would be like without men, once answered, "It would be full of fat and happy women."Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-17706678324979240042009-05-08T12:00:00.000-05:002009-05-08T12:00:00.000-05:00RE: Issur sirusVery interesting, this Easy On Cap...RE: Issur sirus<br><br>Very interesting, this Easy On Capon Kit! Who would have known? <br><br>Makes me wonder how R' Yochannan's method was discovered.<br><br>Shabbat shalom,<br><br>Mesorah fanatic and Consumer of Regular ChickensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-81299893082953420332009-05-08T11:42:00.000-05:002009-05-08T11:42:00.000-05:00RE: Issur sirusThe issue of capons has been on my ...RE: Issur sirus<br><br>The issue of capons has been on my mind for months and I asked a rav who was in Pesach (food/kashrut) mind-set. He did not know. He thought that Kosher capons were just raised to be extraordinarily fat. He had never had one. I asked a shochet in EY. He did not know what capons were. <br><br>My original thesis was that making capons was a Roman development, but Shabbat 110b indicates otherwise.<br><br>Shabbat shalom,<br><br>Mesorah fanatic and Consumer of Regular ChickensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-73616364055445448382009-05-08T00:26:00.000-05:002009-05-08T00:26:00.000-05:00But meanwhile, here's a link to the instructio...But meanwhile, here's a link to the instructions that came with a 1922 Sears Caponizing kit.<br><br>http://www.afn.org/~poultry/capon.htmBarzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-63801984847624803712009-05-07T23:54:00.000-05:002009-05-07T23:54:00.000-05:00Good point. I assume they purchase them fixed, ju...Good point. I assume they purchase them fixed, just as we slaughter steers. There are ways around the issur, but I really don't think anyone relies on them. I will ask around to find out, though.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-50907018206680583522009-05-07T20:24:00.000-05:002009-05-07T20:24:00.000-05:00RE: Issur sirusCan someone explain what is a KOSHE...RE: Issur sirus<br><br>Can someone explain what is a KOSHER capon (defined as a castrated rooster). Has the procedure been-- throughout history--keeping with Shabbat 110b? Is this the way of making kosher capons today? <br><br>Shabbat shalom,<br><br>Consumer of Regular ChickensAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-74671572642819790232008-05-13T03:50:00.000-05:002008-05-13T03:50:00.000-05:00Unfortunately americans who make aliya slowly fall...Unfortunately americans who make aliya slowly fall into the same trap of polarization. It is apparently the chet of bayis sheni that galus has not yet eradicated - nay - maybe even exacerbated. Lets hope it stops at shefichas domim mamash as it has reached the other kind.David Guttmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07668302013143561290noreply@blogger.com