tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post7291727267298523149..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Korach, Bamidbar 16:1. Achdus I: All You Need is Love, and Other Symptoms of DementiaEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-5666745923761329422009-06-24T16:01:05.530-05:002009-06-24T16:01:05.530-05:00Oh, CSZ'L stands from Chasam Sofer Z'l. I...Oh, CSZ'L stands from Chasam Sofer Z'l. I wonder if it is in print: if anything, it is likely in his sefer on the Torah.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-79051652128016911032009-06-24T15:22:51.231-05:002009-06-24T15:22:51.231-05:001. bromidic (or iodinic, or chlorinic...) promulg...1. bromidic (or iodinic, or chlorinic...) promulgation of anything is essentially fallacious. Mitzvos Anashim Melumada, while apparently the goal of the current "Jewish" "Education" "System", was declared anathema to Hashem's version of yiddishkeit twenty-five hundred years ago. <br><br>2. The CSZ"l conducted a no-holds barred, extremely aggressive campaign against haskalah and maskilim. His statement was in response to a criticism based on gadol hashalom.<br><br>3. Chazal, as indicated, seemed to feel that if battering was the most [or perhaps only] efficacious method, then battering it is. The tznius clubs (clubbers?) are after all working at the direction of their Rabbanim and Batei Dinim.<br><br>4. Whatever happened to the politically-incorrect halachot of moridin, or at least ein ma'alin?<br><br>5. The previous ignores the various arguments regarding tinok shenishba.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-23130599481889032942009-06-23T13:48:05.665-05:002009-06-23T13:48:05.665-05:001. Posting is always therapeutic; reading thoughtf...1. Posting is always therapeutic; reading thoughtful comments is invigorating.<br><br>2. So you agree that bromidic promulgation of achdus is essentially fallacious.<br><br>3. What on earth did the CS mean with that? Was he saying pshat in Shalom Rav le'ohavei Torasecha? Or in Talmidei Chachamim marbim shalom ba'olam?<br><br>4. There's a difference between shunning and battering.<br><br>5. It's sure to take getting used to. Alevai we should face such challanges.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-89430465886672578612009-06-23T12:08:57.842-05:002009-06-23T12:08:57.842-05:00I hope this helped you reduce your high blood pres...I hope this helped you reduce your high blood pressure.<br><br>One of the most commented-upon cases of achdus was the chever atzabim in the time of Achav - which, applying your hypothesis, was made possible by the avodah zarah attitude of tolerance. That tolerance even embraced Ovadiah hiding the true nevi'im. Imagine the converse: how much tolerance a chareidi society would show for someone protecting nevi'ei haba'al.<br><br>I once heard in the name of the Chasam Sofer that the gematria of Sholom Rav is the same as Machlokes. It actually works out precisely.<br>Sholom Rav le'Ohavei Torasecha, indeed.<br><br>I seem to recall that you recently criticized the tznius gangs circulating in Yerushalaim. It seems that they are simply taking this philosophy to the next level. After all, Chazal cites a case of stoning for [otherwise not prohibited] extreme pritzus.<br><br>Are we really willing to face what the coming of the Moshiach will bring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-43152137929560744572009-06-23T09:44:29.874-05:002009-06-23T09:44:29.874-05:00Very funny. No, vice versa doesn't get delete...Very funny. No, vice versa doesn't get deleted. The one's that have no good equivalent are legit. One of my favorites is cucullus non facit monachum, the hood does not make the monk. Until I find a Chazal that says that wearing your tzitzis out does not make you a ben torah.<br><br>Anyway, I will be very happy to conclude that the post is not only wrong, but myopic and wrong headed as well. Thanks for beginning the process.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-53577005567185335942009-06-23T09:31:39.629-05:002009-06-23T09:31:39.629-05:00Why does achdus have to mean social mixing and tru...Why does achdus have to mean social mixing and true respect? When the old yerushalmi yid trying to buy a dirah for his youngest daughter knocks on my door and I listen to his problems and give him a few dollars, I feel some degree of achdus with him even though we have little shared interests and diametrically opposed ideas. When I see an MO couple, stuck with a child in Mount Sinai hospital for shabbos, enjoying the kugals and cakes provided by satmar bikkur cholim I have a sense of seeing true achdus. <br><br>Achdus, as cliche as it sounds, means treating every Jew as I would my brother. I can (and do) disagree with almost everything my brother says but I would do anything for him and vice versa. [Just wanted to see if that would be automatically deleted]LkwdGuyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14676035514801548695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-13907348569610097012009-06-23T07:01:25.713-05:002009-06-23T07:01:25.713-05:00For the best opinion on the Holocaust see the aish...For the best opinion on the Holocaust see the aish Kodesh who says Hashem went to far (somthing along those lines!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-21276308129011969712009-06-22T22:09:21.680-05:002009-06-22T22:09:21.680-05:00Excuse the typos I meant marbe mamzerim and oker Y...Excuse the typos I meant marbe mamzerim and oker YisroelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-19268508522299806842009-06-22T22:01:18.518-05:002009-06-22T22:01:18.518-05:00On the one hand we have Bais Hillel and Shammai so...On the one hand we have Bais Hillel and Shammai somehow coexisting despite the fact that one held the other was being marie mamzerim. Then there was Eliahu And Achav who each accused the other of being an omer YisroelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-29978431169959011222009-06-22T18:24:40.204-05:002009-06-22T18:24:40.204-05:00Perhaps you are right, but I wonder if the broader...Perhaps you are right, but I wonder if the broader scope of the Holocaust would console the children of Shu'm who were burned alive along with the last vestiges of those ancient communities.<br><br>It doesn't matter what the Satmerer held. His opinion, and that of, e.g., Rav Rudderman, (that if the malachei hashares couldn't fathom, or WERE UNWILLING TO PERCEIVE the reason for churban bayis rishon, it is bizarre (respectfully, and only from R'R's perspective,) for contemporaries to proclaim reasons for a worse disaster) are very different, no?<br><br><br>And even if the two opinions are amenable to Eilu ve'Eilu, (which I HIGHLY DOUBT,) they are mutually EXCLUSIVE in the real world. You can't feel overflowing gratitude for a gift while agreeing that the gift may have been tendered maliciously and in order to poison you.Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-9762070225342970232009-06-22T17:59:08.386-05:002009-06-22T17:59:08.386-05:00"Did the endless Inquisitions and pogroms esc..."Did the endless Inquisitions and pogroms escape their attention?"<br><br>I would dare to venture that all of them put together wouldn't equal the holocaust. <br><br>Satmar Rov z"l was really trying to "explain" or "justify" HaShem's actions. Since each punishment needs a crime, and there is very little doubt that, in those years all the "isms" were enemies of the Torah, and Zionism one of them. So it follows according to this rationale that the State of Israel, being a product of the Zionist ideology, belongs in the same category.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com