tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post8018731188728322783..comments2024-03-28T23:20:49.777-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Vayeishev, Breishis 37:2. Na’ar.Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-63111451629844909762008-12-18T10:37:00.000-06:002008-12-18T10:37:00.000-06:00Who says the kesones was undergarments? Are you m...Who says the kesones was undergarments? Are you making a joke?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-85995052916168482142008-12-17T22:30:00.000-06:002008-12-17T22:30:00.000-06:00The Beis Ahron(Karlin)says thw torah says Naar Bec...The Beis Ahron(Karlin)says thw torah says Naar Because we shaould be like a "Naar" in our approach in avodas HAshem with a fresh Enthusiasim "LHAGID SHVACHOS SHEL AHRON SHELO SHINAH"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-38367254271819867312008-12-17T22:28:00.000-06:002008-12-17T22:28:00.000-06:00Being that some say it was undergarments I would I...Being that some say it was undergarments I would Imagine that is A good Question.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-64476279391727853212008-12-17T10:14:00.000-06:002008-12-17T10:14:00.000-06:00I discussed the Kesones Pasim here http://havolim...I discussed the Kesones Pasim here http://havolim.blogspot.com/2007/11/vayeishev-breishis-373.html where I talked about how strange it is that during birkas kohanim we ask that we find favor in people's eyes just as Yoseph did "when his father dressed him in the Kesones Pasim," when that was what caused so many terrible events.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-28954110636047072972008-12-17T02:28:00.000-06:002008-12-17T02:28:00.000-06:00פסיםעל שם צרות שהגיעוהו,פ"א פוטיפרסמ"ך ס...פסים<br>על שם צרות שהגיעוהו,<br>פ"א פוטיפר<br>סמ"ך סוחרים<br>יו"ד ישמעאלים<br>מ"ם מדינים.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-25807032051606235292008-12-16T13:25:00.000-06:002008-12-16T13:25:00.000-06:00You're right; Shemos 33:11, Umesharso Yeshoshu...You're right; Shemos 33:11, Umesharso Yeshoshua Na'ar....<br>The Ibn Ezra remarks about the incongruity of calling a fifty year old a na'ar, and says pshat that what he did for Moshe was "sheirus na'ar," meaning, I suppose, service that a high-status servant would not be asked to do. The Ramban brings the Ibn Ezra and simply says that whenever the term na'ar is used in the context of a servant and his master, it merely means 'servant,' and carries no connotation of "juvenile." <br><br>According to the Ramban, then, the term na'ar used by Yitzchak also is not shver, since Avraham was telling Eliezer (and Yishma'el) to stay down in the camp while he and Yitzchak would ascend, and Yitzchak would take over Eliezer's service duties. Or maybe that's a stretch in "ve'ani ve'hana'ar", and the Imrei Emes's answer is better.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-36016186790443771572008-12-15T16:43:00.000-06:002008-12-15T16:43:00.000-06:00Yehoshua was also called a na'ar, when he was ...Yehoshua was also called a na'ar, when he was 42. My recollection is that someone explains that he treated himself as being a simple na'ar relative to his rav.Josh M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/14414532577328945154noreply@blogger.com