tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post8626490554644819528..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Like TopsEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-64533757996568655032012-08-02T10:04:18.448-05:002012-08-02T10:04:18.448-05:00Harry- no, I didn't say it over to the klei ko...Harry- no, I didn't say it over to the klei kodesh at the CCK. Since I learned Ribis and Tevilas Keilim with Reb Dovid twenty five years ago, when I first moved back to Chicago, I haven't visited much. But it most probably wouldn't appeal much to them, right?<br><br>To the anonymous that said that the sugya is in the Mishna in the previous daf- thank you. I just grabbed a Gemara and found that part from memory.<br><br>As for your point that Artscroll explains it adequately - apparently some people think I'm a better ba'al hasbara than Artscroll. That might explain why they come to my shiur and don't just read the book.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-59614092206087282552012-08-01T11:41:53.258-05:002012-08-01T11:41:53.258-05:00The machlokes of chatzi matir appears in a Mishnah...The machlokes of chatzi matir appears in a Mishnah on Menachos 16a, not 17a (although it is mentioned on 17a). I wonder why the fellow could not have looked in an Artscroll Gemara for an explanation. It's explained quite clearly there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-45460730327308253972012-08-01T09:51:53.649-05:002012-08-01T09:51:53.649-05:00What a great story! Have you told it over to eithe...What a great story! Have you told it over to either of the RKs or any of the Klei Kodesh at the CCK? If so... what was their response?Harry Maryleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09936405163453714823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-77447562692207619132012-07-31T18:46:17.714-05:002012-07-31T18:46:17.714-05:00>>>And what's Rebbitzin Shapiro doing...>>>And what's Rebbitzin Shapiro doing at this moment in her grave???<br><br>A story that might answer your question:<br>On 9 Av R' Pesach Krohn was one of the speakers at Y' Darchei Torah in Far Rockaway and he mentioned this ma'aseh told by R' Hirschprung (who was a talmid of R' Meir Simcha). When R' MS was a little boy they had to move to a different town. They arranged for the a melamed to come that evening to meet RMS and give the first lesson, but the message somehow got lost in the shuffle and the melamed never showed up. Later that night, RMS saw his mother crying. She told him that she was crying because every day of limud is precious and cannot be replaced. This was the root (so surmised R' PK, I think) of the daf yomi idea, to have a kviyus every day.<br>The proof: years later when the daf was started, the Gerrer Rebbe on R"H told his chassidim that he is stopping tisch early so he can learn the daf. That was the tidal wave that got things off the ground. Without knowing what had happened in Ger, RMS's sister sent him a message that she had an unusual dream on leil R"H. Even though she normally does not dream of her parents, that leil R"H, the night daf yomi kicked off, she saw her mother in Gan Eden wearing a special crown.<br> Put 2 and 2 together. (R' Pesach Krohn told it better than my comment here.)Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-84071327381197670082012-07-31T17:57:25.504-05:002012-07-31T17:57:25.504-05:00A lot of things change the "character of tora...A lot of things change the "character of torah" (If there is such an objective concept, which I'm pretty sure there isn't) . Including the Rationalists of the Rishonei Sepharad, the mysticism of the Kabbalists, the warmth of the Chassidim, the humanism of Rav Hirsch, and the existentialism of Rav Soloveitchik. All of these, in some ways or another, left "Yiddishkeit unrecognizable" (if there is such an objective concept, and again, I'm pretty sure there isn't). Would involving women in Torah thoroughly change what we think of as Orthodox society today? Yes. Is Orthodox society today worth changing? Also Yes.Josh Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-69491414927253247922012-07-31T14:59:37.042-05:002012-07-31T14:59:37.042-05:00I don't look forward to the feminization of th...I don't look forward to the feminization of the Mesora. At the least, it will generate another rift in Klal Yisrael, creating what most Orthodox Jews will characterize as the modern equivalent of the Reform movement. In any event, it will change the character of Torah. Torah is more of a battle than a dialectic, and there is a fine balance between din and rachamim. To involve women would just ruin everything. It's a total lunacy that would leave Yiddishkeit unrecognizable. I am thoroughly opposed to involving women in limud hatorah b'iyun.Eliezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-76864230590536298902012-07-31T10:52:29.679-05:002012-07-31T10:52:29.679-05:00And what's Rebbitzin Shapiro doing at this mom...And what's Rebbitzin Shapiro doing at this moment in her grave???<br><br>There is a lovely elderly gentleman in Queens, Mr Goldstein, who was for many years the president of Rabbi Chaim Boruch Faskowitz zt"l's shul in Hillcrest and at a very advanced age still attends many shiurim. I have yet to meet a greater מוקיר רבנן<br><br>He has two daughters in Eretz Yisroel who give daf yomi shiurim. And when one of his grandsons was ten years old, he organized and started saying his own daf yomi shiur.<br><br>[Incidentally, one daughter named her four sons - apparently she was prescient and knew she would have four - Gavriel, Michoel, Rephael, and Uriel, which of course are roshei taivos Gemarah].<br><br>I don't know what Reb Meir Shapiro is doing, but I suspect that the RBSh"O, kevayachol, is deriving much pleasure. Is this a geder of נצחוני בנותי?great unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-73744946590046788902012-07-31T05:46:57.018-05:002012-07-31T05:46:57.018-05:00just fantastic.just fantastic.ysprunghttp://thinkjudaism.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-64701982423256822542012-07-31T04:46:03.717-05:002012-07-31T04:46:03.717-05:00Thanks!Thanks!Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.com