tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post1133261935514946312..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Beshalach. Marriage and the Splitting of the Sea. Drasha for Sheva Brachos (#9)Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-7358746095718736792012-02-05T16:35:58.924-06:002012-02-05T16:35:58.924-06:00I like the Maharal: The Yam is naturally al pi tev...I like the Maharal: The Yam is naturally al pi teva one body of water. To split is requires going l'ma'alah min hateva. So too (actually its the inverse), a chosson/kallah b'derech hateva would remain as separate individuals. It requires a l'ma'aleh min hateva intervention to bring them together and make one unit. (I have seen b'shem a number of people that the area of zivugim is one of the last places that we see open hashgacha. Fits well with this Maharal.)Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-42437493721932618312012-01-31T07:52:56.387-06:002012-01-31T07:52:56.387-06:00yes, these are the sources I referred to. I'm ...yes, these are the sources I referred to. I'm not sure explaining Zivug Rishon in Gmara Sota as referring to Chomer ve-Tzura would be considered pshat. The Ra'aya from medrash is strong, but still...Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-56198273270971802052012-01-31T06:38:13.137-06:002012-01-31T06:38:13.137-06:00Certainly the natural reading of the Gemara is tha...Certainly the natural reading of the Gemara is that this applies to zivug sheini, but the Chidushei Hage'onim in the Ein Yaakov applies it to what we call zivug rishon, and the Medrash with Reb Yosi ben Chalafta (בראשית רבה פרשה ס"ח:ג-ד, ויקרא רבה פרשה ח:א, במדבר רבה פרשה ג:ו) also so indicates. This is not to say that it does not apply to what zivug sheini, only that it also may apply to what we call zivug rishon.Eliezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-15925084603058198782012-01-31T03:50:01.269-06:002012-01-31T03:50:01.269-06:00All these Drushim are very nice, but if one looks ...All these Drushim are very nice, but if one looks for Pshat it should be noted that כקריעת ים סוף applies only to Zivug Sheini (some sources say that first marriage might also be Zivug Sheini, if one loses his בת פלוני, but then again this is not Pshat).<br><br>See Tosfos Shanz there in Sota, who explain the connection to Yam suf using Sanhedrin 22a בכושרות, בכי ושירות. <br><br>Accordingly, I'd suggest, the difficulty in Yam Suf is in that it was a salvation for Israel but at the same time a catastrophe for the Egyptians, בכי ושירות. Balancing the act between the two is "difficult". Second marriages are much like so.Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12793717193734899866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-86083992304801323272012-01-30T23:47:22.920-06:002012-01-30T23:47:22.920-06:00Thank you. I put it in.Thank you. I put it in.Eliezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-92095259467266798742012-01-30T19:06:05.394-06:002012-01-30T19:06:05.394-06:00Heard another p'shat, which while true in marr...Heard another p'shat, which while true in marriage causes me a little difficulty in the medrashim.<br><br>Specifically, marriage is compared to splitting the sea, a liquid, as opposed to splitting something solid, like a mountain...<br><br>Because, to keep a liquid split requires constant "effort" to prevent the parts from recombining, as opposed to a solid, which once split, will remain "naturally" split. <br><br>However, I remember hearing (not sure where) that by kriyas yam suf, the nature of water itself was temporarily changed, which is why all the waters anywhere split until the nature was changed back.lesser unknownnoreply@blogger.com