tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post1277275399574917312..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Eikev, Devarim 7:25. Destroying Pagan IdolsEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-23806789146246114512017-06-09T08:07:55.146-05:002017-06-09T08:07:55.146-05:00Thank you. Very useful. I just put it in the post....Thank you. Very useful. I just put it in the post.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-11876270598038069032017-06-09T06:40:33.283-05:002017-06-09T06:40:33.283-05:00I bookmarked this a while ago and I meant to comme...I bookmarked this a while ago and I meant to comment, but I got too busy. Anyways, the Chazon Ish (YD 61) is מחדש that an AZ that doesn't have any worshipers, is considered בטל even though there was no action to make it בטל. He doesn't really say straight out that if all its worshipers died, then it is ממילא בטל. So we don't have to destroy everything at the Israel Museum. Reuven Chaim Kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836805247888732019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-89396392737364564872016-09-02T12:13:23.143-05:002016-09-02T12:13:23.143-05:00Thank you for the mareh makom. I wouldn't have...Thank you for the mareh makom. I wouldn't have known the Sifri, which the Rambam quotes in his Sefer HaMitzvos, to the effect that ולשון ספרי מנין אתה אומר שאם קצץ ע"ז אפילו עשר פעמים והחליפה שחייב לקצצה תלמוד לומר אבד תאבדון. ואמרו שם ואבדתם את שמם בארץ ישראל אתה מצווה לרדוף אחריהם ואי אתה מצווה לרדוף אחריהם בחוצה לארץ? Yes, I'm aware of the Sifri that the Rambam is based on, which, in the other system, is in piska 8, without your citation. <br /><br />By the way, the Sifri in 59 there says that the mitzva does apply outside of Eretz Yisrael, as the Gemara in Kiddushin says (verbatim.) In any case, the Netziv in Haamek She'eilah 52:3, on Yisro, explains that the Sifri is actually saying that it's a machlokes. But the point of my post was to discuss whether the halacha applies in our times. The answer is yes, it does, in and out of the land. Besides the fact that the Tur doesn't pasken like the Rambam, even the Rambam agrees that the basic mitzva applies outside of the land. Nobody paskens like the Ramban.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-82636872677162730982016-09-02T04:36:52.148-05:002016-09-02T04:36:52.148-05:00About active search and destruction of As in hutzl...About active search and destruction of As in hutzlaartez- before you analyze the rishonim, I suggest you start with the midrash tannaim. In Sifri its unrefuted stamma tannaim: <br />ספרי דברים פרשת ראה פיסקא סא <br /><br /> יכול אף מצווה לרדוף אחריהם בחוצה לארץ תלמוד לומר ואבדתם את שמם מן המקום ההוא, בארץ ישראל אתה מצווה לרדוף אחריהם, ואין אתה מצווה לרדוף אחריהם בחוצה לארץ. <br /><br />This is why the bracha upon seeing destrouyed house of AZ is: <br />משנה מסכת ברכות פרק ט <br /><br />ברוך שעקר עבודת כוכבים מארצנו: <br /><br />Dr. Ezra Chwathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10179336102318509122noreply@blogger.com