tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post1390542578016854972..comments2024-03-28T23:20:49.777-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Mazel Tov at a Siyum or Chag HasmichaEliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-24692090889348465952022-06-26T14:14:40.026-05:002022-06-26T14:14:40.026-05:00For what it’s worth, I completely agree with you t...For what it’s worth, I completely agree with you that Mazel tov is a wish for the future, not a comment on the past (and I greatly enjoy the Tolkien reference!). Given that even a sefer Torah in the heichal needs mazel, it’s surely appropriate to wish the mesaymim mazel with their future endeavors. (The question of how to reconcile ein mazal l’Yisrael, as Rav Micha points out, is a general one, and beyond the scope of a blog post, kal vachomer a comment. As far as why it is not deterministic, however, see the Tiferes Yisrael Boaz in the fourth Perek of Kiddushin, and the it becomes clear that mazal’s continuum is constantly shifting.)<br /><br />That said, I prefer to wish mesaymim that all the beracha of the Hadran be fulfilled for them. Avrohom Wagnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-61541678920140235112022-06-24T14:35:58.936-05:002022-06-24T14:35:58.936-05:00Some have suggested that ein mazal means the mazal...Some have suggested that ein mazal means the mazal can be changed in response to tefillah or as a middah keneged middah echo of one's mastery over his self.Eliezer Eisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-92182889234134213932022-06-24T14:31:25.348-05:002022-06-24T14:31:25.348-05:00Chazal knew that the stars and planets move in a f...Chazal knew that the stars and planets move in a fixed and predictable pattern. Mazal Tov is therefore less like "Good Luck" as being about fate or destiny. How that can be a wish, given that it talks about something deterministic, is beyond me. But then, how you wish a Jew "Mazal Tov" when we are above mazalos and aren't even bound / entirely bound by teva altogether (pick your favorite rishon's shitah about that "entirely"). How does Mazal Tov fit in a hashkafah that has total hashgachah peratis altogether?micha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.com