tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post4035320286863472731..comments2024-03-28T23:20:49.777-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Titzaveh, Shemos 29:14. Rare Korbanos. And, The Joyful Month of Adar, משנכנס אדר מרבים בשמחה.Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-77927737220303683712011-02-09T11:41:22.364-06:002011-02-09T11:41:22.364-06:00No,I haven't. Please send a cite and/or a lin...No,I haven't. Please send a cite and/or a link.<br><br>And just for precision, I suspect that you can add R' Yaakov to the list of R' Regensberg and R' Gifter.<br>However, this is just a suspicion, and I wonder if anybody out there could tell me if R' Yaakov said Kodoshim or, perish the thought, Kodshim.great unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-59648236201887716642011-02-09T11:12:26.678-06:002011-02-09T11:12:26.678-06:00You're right. I write Yoma, but say Yuma. Di...You're right. I write Yoma, but say Yuma. Did you ever read Reb Yaakov Emden's essay about dikduk dilettantes (dillettanti)? It's entertaining, especially the part about ושמור צאתנו.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-13217025383069329332011-02-09T07:08:38.776-06:002011-02-09T07:08:38.776-06:00So when you say kiddush, is the Ribbono Shel Olam ...So when you say kiddush, is the Ribbono Shel Olam being madkish the Shabbos? [Actually, this requires much more analysis, since we do say in many places makdishim, lehakdish l'Yotzram...]<br><br>Of course, if anyone had ever accused you of consistency [the hobgoblin of little minds], I would ask why you use Yoma in the blog [which is the way it is pronounced by a few great talmidei chachamim and those whose exposure to shas is through Artscroll] as opposed to the great unwashed pronounciation of Yuma.great unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-56003417643338774432011-02-08T18:49:50.913-06:002011-02-08T18:49:50.913-06:00I'm sure they all said Korbonos before pesukei...I'm sure they all said Korbonos before pesukei d'zimra, like all good baalei bayis.<br><br>But you're right. In the context of davening, they probably said kodoshim. But like I said, the nusach of yeshivos is different. Best Raya- the way litvishe yeshivos in Eretz Yisrael davka mess up the mile'el and mile'ra and the kametz and patach when they're leining or learning in Yeshiva. Sometimes it sounds funny, like a healthy person imitating a lisp.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-38996636708063713812011-02-08T18:40:33.623-06:002011-02-08T18:40:33.623-06:00And, furthermore, what did Rav Ruderman, my father...And, furthermore, what did Rav Ruderman, my father, Rav Zimmerman say when they said the mishnayos of Aizehu Mekoman every day: kodshei kodshim or kodshei kodoshim; kodshim kalim or kodoshim kalim?<br><br>Taking it one step further: what do you say?great unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-72941218979818458222011-02-08T17:45:08.830-06:002011-02-08T17:45:08.830-06:00I know many people who were mekadesh animals. Th...I know many people who were mekadesh animals. They just didn't discover that in time.<br><br>Many decades ago, I was asked to write a computer program that would vowelize a hebrew text based on the rules of dikduk. In my research phase, I purchased one of the first seforim vowelized using a similar program. I was impressed with the results until I came to a possuk. It seems that the Ribbono Shel Olam has different rules than those we follow.<br><br>Similarly, while you invoke many great authorities, I humbly submit that I take my rules from the Chumash. I suspect that lashon rabbo does not apply to the pronunciation of Lashon Kodesh found in Tanach.<br><br>For example, does anybody mispronounce tofach as tefach. <br><br>By the way, to Rav Regensburg you can add Rav Gifter.great unknownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-85398785072783572592011-02-08T14:46:28.582-06:002011-02-08T14:46:28.582-06:00By the by, what did Rav Rudderman say? What did y...By the by, what did Rav Rudderman say? What did your father say? What did Reb Chaim Zimmerman say? Kodo-what? Maybe Rabbi Regensburg.bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-44005593952806225792011-02-08T14:30:18.555-06:002011-02-08T14:30:18.555-06:00לשון חכמים לחוד ולשון בעלי דקדוק לחוד Speaking of...לשון חכמים לחוד ולשון בעלי דקדוק לחוד <br><br>Speaking of which, I was shocked to learn that while in American yeshivos we're makdish animals, in Eretz Yisrael they're mekadesh them.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-70222873975384939162011-02-08T14:20:01.963-06:002011-02-08T14:20:01.963-06:00And after people finish learning kodshim, they can...And after people finish learning kodshim, they can get around to learning Kodoshim, which they should have been doing in the first place.great unknownnoreply@blogger.com