tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post5061375178765890572..comments2024-03-19T23:03:01.685-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: A Conversation During Shalosh Seudos.Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-7541599338255462322009-09-22T08:45:52.055-05:002009-09-22T08:45:52.055-05:00In response to some valid criticism, I edited the ...In response to some valid criticism, I edited the post. If some of the comments don't seem to make sense, that's because they did make sense before I edited the post.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-47632257384466367992009-09-20T22:59:41.519-05:002009-09-20T22:59:41.519-05:00Michael, one of the reasons I write this blog is s...Michael, one of the reasons I write this blog is so that I will occasionally be reminded to be less insular and dismissive. Maybe I was overreacting to the other fellow's attitude; it would be nice if people could get together without automatically assessing the others there and rating them on some scale, whether a scale of beauty, or wealth, or religion.<br><br>my interpolated comment is going to undergo some rehabilitation.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-38662697637516716572009-09-20T22:48:51.342-05:002009-09-20T22:48:51.342-05:00Re: Im hayemin, ve'asme'ila: While it is t...Re: Im hayemin, ve'asme'ila: While it is true that often good fences make good neighbors, IMO, it is very sad when the only thing creating good will in a community is those kinds of divisions. It shouldn't be necessary for the yeshivish people to daven elsewhere for the MO woman to not feel judged for wearing her doily. (Regardless of what you think about doilies, it's not right for a person to feel judged.)<br><br>@Chaim: I have been quite frustrated in some communities not being able to find an open beis medrash on a shabbos afternoon. When I'm finding a community to live in, a basic requirement will be an open, air conditioned beis medrash on a shabbos afternoon. While I may end up living in a community without that for whatever reasons, it would be a serious mesiras nefesh.Michael Kopinskyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16239953045100689630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-56560152361400575382009-09-20T13:25:18.456-05:002009-09-20T13:25:18.456-05:00You must have misunderstood. he was speaking in M&...You must have misunderstood. he was speaking in M'sholim...<br><br>He MUST have meant will MOE be LEARNING on the lawn! If he would be learning on the lawn the property value goes up! If he stays only in the Beis Medrash and doen't reach out to the commuinty (ie, MOE sitting on the lawn) the property values will go down. Pure and simple. <br>Otherwise, it would be complete "amaratzus" or "rishus" Take your pick...Zev M Shandalovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14159846523541240241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-19186887419377206672009-09-15T18:30:50.780-05:002009-09-15T18:30:50.780-05:00Agreed. And sometimes, the advantages outweigh the...Agreed. And sometimes, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.<br><br>But studies, e.g.<br>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13229488/ns/us_news-education/<br>have shown that students at single gender schools do better scholastically. Judging from my own experience, girls can be distracting to adolescent boys.Barzilaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-65174239292807094272009-09-15T18:01:20.411-05:002009-09-15T18:01:20.411-05:00The mixed gender, mostly mechallel-shabbos-familie...The mixed gender, mostly mechallel-shabbos-families school I send my kids to is not good enough for them?) With the founding of the kollel, the bnei torah will most likely spend more and more time at the kollel minyan, and the shul will remain with the more modern people, and everyone will be happy. Im hayemin, ve'asme'ila, and so forth.<br><br>I just want to point out that someone who sends their kid to a mixed school can still be a ben torahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-32862892068530149582009-09-15T14:12:47.258-05:002009-09-15T14:12:47.258-05:00anyone who understands basic economics should real...anyone who understands basic economics should realize that buying up houses that are for sale should help the value of their house these people are rodfim i should know about being a rodefRodefnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-52254319808191605582009-09-14T17:11:45.985-05:002009-09-14T17:11:45.985-05:00How short sighted! Any research into the prices of...How short sighted! Any research into the prices of homes in a desirable frum community would show that home prices rise as more frum families want to be a part of that community.<br>In fact I bought my home from a non-frum family in a chicago suburb who wanted to get out before "they" took over. Five years later my home tripled in value as "those" people moved in.<br>May the kollel be matzliach in the revitalization of both the physical and spiritual aspects of their new community home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-66921953375491452932009-09-14T14:08:21.150-05:002009-09-14T14:08:21.150-05:00You don't pull any punches. I wish I could cut...You don't pull any punches. I wish I could cut to the essence of things like you do so eloquently.<br><br>We hope the Kollel is Mekadeish Shem Shamayim, and expect great things from them. I'm sure their lawns will look just fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-4435392350223362932009-09-13T21:02:56.636-05:002009-09-13T21:02:56.636-05:00It's simple: some people would rather be surro...It's simple: some people would rather be surrounded by nice lawns than by flourishing Judaism. The former is a value; the latter is not.<br><br>Look on the bright side: at least the kollel was brought in and you have something to fight about. <br>On a recent Shabbos afternoon I and someone else (who was a guest in the neighborhood) made the mistake of staying later after a 1:30 mincha in a local shul to learn. We were promptly tossed out so the janitor could lock up. The out of towner could not believe that a shul should be locked all Shabbos afternoon with no one learning there. The manicured lawns and housekeepers abound, but a beis medrash for learning even on shabbos -- are you kidding? So at least you managed to get a kollel even if you still have gripers. Some of us are still living in a midbar.Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.com