tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post513403432139237282..comments2024-03-28T23:20:49.777-05:00Comments on Beis Vaad L'Chachamim: Re’ay, Devarim 13:1. Bal Tosif and Bal Tigra, the Prohibition to Add to or Subtract from the Mitzvos.Eliezer Eisenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16036989084122930226noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-44839275419090303982008-08-27T22:25:00.000-05:002008-08-27T22:25:00.000-05:00I'm going to have to check out the PMG and the...I'm going to have to check out the PMG and the Raavad in Mamrim. I'll try to get a hold of RYB's sefer also, bl'n.<br>Thanks for the mar'ei makom. But I don't think the melachos of chol hamo'eid are the same at all, since the loshon there is that the Torah left it to Chazal to decide what is and what is not a melacha. To expand that to all asmachtos is a stretch.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-59896244135546042552008-08-27T21:11:00.000-05:002008-08-27T21:11:00.000-05:00>>>But Reb Meir Simcha apparently holds t...>>>But Reb Meir Simcha apparently holds that this is not mistavra, because if it were presented as a derabanan, what was the point of hanging it on a drasha<br><br>It is mashma from the Ra'avad in <br>Mamrim 2 that an asmachta is stronger than a regular din derabbanan (I think the PM"G also has such an idea in the Pesicha haKolleles). If such a sevara works, then there is a good reason to create asmachtos - they are categorically different than regular derabbanans without the smach.Chaim B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02231811394447584320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-42309526788643948182008-08-26T23:09:00.000-05:002008-08-26T23:09:00.000-05:00Are you going to do a Post on Reb Yoel's Yahrt...Are you going to do a Post on Reb Yoel's Yahrtzeit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-13360041123245230762008-08-26T10:07:00.000-05:002008-08-26T10:07:00.000-05:00Not only that they not be so chamur: but rather th...Not only that they not be so chamur: but rather they are to be invoked by ChaZaL if and when necessary - over and above Lo Sasur.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-91392845654830763582008-08-26T09:16:00.000-05:002008-08-26T09:16:00.000-05:00OK, I hear your teretz: the din of Bal Tosif has n...OK, I hear your teretz: the din of Bal Tosif has nothing to do with the degree of chumra, it simply requires that we make clear the difference between derabanans and deoraysas. So according to the Ritva, since asmachtas are merumaz in the Torah, and although the whole point of not writing them befeirush is so they will not be so chamur, they can be called deoraysa, although they are intentionally limited deoraysas.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-82595701692798126882008-08-25T22:32:00.000-05:002008-08-25T22:32:00.000-05:00Actually, the implication of the Ritva, as I was m...Actually, the implication of the Ritva, as I was mekabel from my Rabai'im, is that it is a de'oraysa, except that it is contingent on the Rabbanan invoking it. This is analogous to melacha on Chol HaMoed being de'oraysa, where melacha is defined at the discretion of ChaZaL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-77313269063362537812008-08-25T22:16:00.000-05:002008-08-25T22:16:00.000-05:00I'm glad you put in the caveat "at least ...I'm glad you put in the caveat "at least in part." It's fort a derabanan, and the retzon Hashem that we come up with it doesn't make it a deoraysa any more than lo sasur makes them into de'oraysas.<br><br>I've found that when I talk in learning with big talmidei chachomim, I seem to be a lot smarter, because they make my little glimmers into big fireworks. I'm glad you're enjoying my he'oros.Barzilainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6453787673476195995.post-18015258269804446912008-08-25T18:29:00.000-05:002008-08-25T18:29:00.000-05:00It's wonderful to read a blog where the baalim...It's wonderful to read a blog where the baalim throw out "the Ritva in Eiruvin" and expect the gentle reader to immediately grasp which particular Ritva is meant.<br><br>I refer you to another Ritva, which might resolve the issue you raised, at least in part. The one in Rosh Hashana.<br><br>For those who minds may not immediately swoop down upon the specific mar'eh makom, that's Rosh Hashana 16a, on the inyan of asmachata.<br><br>Also, you might be interested in what Rav Soloveichik, the Bostoner Rav, ZT"L has to say in Shiurim l'Zecher Nishmas Aba Mori 1:241 on the two type of Mesora. He presents a very expansive analysis of the Rambam in Mamrim, with a tremendous chiddush on the expression "halacha l'Moshe miSinai."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com